User talk:Meco

Irrelevant content
Can I ask you if you backed up what you deleted, so I could place it in another page? Thanks! -User:Tenzinkendrick


 * "User:Tenzinkendrick/temp". Save it off the wiki; it has no place here. I'll be deleting it in 24 hours of so. - Meco (talk, contribs) 10:49, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I re-wrote it somewhere else

deletion
Why Did you delete the Scourge Nests page? It's called time, you should wait for some before demolishing articles. Please undo the deletion. seriously, If the deletion is valid, you may as well delete EVERY stub on the wiki! SuperPrototype (talk) 17:17, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's called "you made zero effort to observe the policies I had so pointedly linked to on your talk page." They were extremely poor stubs, so poor they'd practically have to be rebuilt to form the base of an article. May as well wait for somebody who knows what they're doing to make it. - Meco (talk, contribs) 17:24, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

All Heart of the Swarm text
Hi Meco,

Someone put the entire HotS campaign, with subtitles, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_745800&feature=iv&src_vid=LFGpgiwUWgI&v=uufh8uWh--M (that's # 19)
 * I'm using that to reconstruct the Skygeirr missions, but could slowly build the script for the entire game from there too. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) contribs) 15:40, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems this source is even better: http://www23.atwiki.jp/starcraft2story/pages/137.html PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) contribs) 13:09, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

About the Hybrid and Narud during the second great war
The Hybrid and Narud were somewhat on Mengsk's side. Mengsk made dealings with Narud, because he wanted to use the Hybrid as his super soldiers, which was stated by Stukov in HotS and by Horner in WoL. It's just that Mengsk did not know the true extent of Narud's plans, because Narud was secretly manipulating the Dominion.

--Torresp (talk) 01:55, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Dominion Renegades
Hi, I just want to know why you keep deleting the part about the Dominion renegades being reabsorbed into the Dominion. Why shouldn't it be there? Valerian is now Emperor of the Terran Dominion. Therefore, the renegades could be part of the Dominion Fleet again. Nicholasemjohnson (talk) 16:58, August 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Fates need to be clearly stated in canon. Claims based on "could" are insufficient and fall under speculation. - Meco (talk, contribs) 19:33, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Even so, it still says in its affiliation tab: Terran Dominion (2505–), so it must be true. Nicholasemjohnson (talk) 01:18, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Everything concerning content is mutable. Just because it is written doesn't mean it is not a mistake, or hasn't changed since.


 * Saying that, familiarize yourself with the speculation policy I linked to earlier, and the referencing policy as well for good measure. I am getting the distinct impression you have been taking far too many liberties. - Meco (talk, contribs) 01:48, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * You are right. I just had a strong feeling that what I put down will be added again and confirmed in the future, but I have to add things based on facts and evidence, not what is obvious. I do not like this policy, but I should have followed it regardless. Thank you and I will be more mindful in the future. Nicholasemjohnson (talk) 18:13, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Profile Page
Is this slightly better? EvErLoyaLEagLE (talk) 23:13, September 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I don't see why a user page can't be as large as a user wants it, provided that any fanfic is kept to said page.--Hawki (talk) 01:08, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Tinkering with templates
I looked at what was at the Culture Wiki but only got confused. I probably need a few hours to make sense of what I'm seeing there. But that wasn't the point. The point was to get better templates, and I'm all in favor of that. At present, I find I often have to edit articles twice, because changing something pushes the templates around. PSH aka Kimera 757 (talk) contribs 18:27, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Ma'lash
If you restore the deleted page, I'll see to sourcing it and cleaning it up. :) DrakeyC (talk) 01:19, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

There was only one sentence there. Go ahead and remake the article. - Meco (talk, contribs) 01:42, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Image Deletion
Could you please delete File:DesperateAlliance SC1 Map1.jpg? I've uploaded a .png version. DrakeyC (talk) 11:32, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Also, File:Eggression SC1 Map1.png needs to have a g dropped from the file name, please. DrakeyC (talk) 11:44, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

File:KhorShakal SC1 Rend1.jpg and File:TheDylarianShipyards SC-BW Map1.jpg are next. Also, we now have Category:StarCraft_campaign_maps and Category:StarCraft_campaign_map_images, not sure how that should be sorted out.


 * I'm fine with converting all to jpg in theory, but honestly, reuploading all of them because of the extension change? :/ Took me hours for these ones already because I had to do it one by one per the file summaries.
 * I can further downsize them as pngs, though. The biggest one is To Chain The Beast, just over 2000 square pixels (also the largest physical size for any of the maps, only a few are of the same dimension) and 8.69 megabytes, at a 33% scale of the original 1:1 screenshot. At a 20% scale it drops to 1229 square pixels and 3.34 megabytes. Testing it at 15% scale though, things really are starting to become hard to make out, you have to squint to make things out. 20% isn't awesome for visibility, but it's workable.
 * Looking at all the files, only 8/57 check in at 5 MB or higher in file size, everything else, a few are over 4 but most are under, so you slice their size in more than half and most will be under 2 MB. Is that more workable?
 * And check on the deletion template, thanks. DrakeyC (talk) 00:01, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

As a test, I converted ToChainTheBeast_SC1_Map1.png into a JPEG. At 80% quality, it came out at 1.1 MB, all without reducing the resolution.

If the image dimensions was scaled down 20%, the result was 675 kB, while still being reasonably usable.

Given the above, I would be willing to accept the full resolutions provided they are converted to JPEG. For such a large image, 1-2 MB is a small price to pay.

I would prefer some scaling down, if possible, if only to convince myself that we are at least trying to abide by "fair use" provisions as much as possible. Scaled-down 20% seems ok to me, but if you feel 15% is still too far, then perhaps we can settle at 10%. But as I said, I leave it to you. If you feel the full resolution is needed, then so be it.

I don't know if you know, but you can "overwrite" existing Files; "File History" tab -> Upload a new version of this file. So long as the image depicts more-or-less the same thing as the old one and you change the file description as needed, that's perfectly acceptable. :) - Meco (talk, contribs) 00:41, July 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * They have to be the same format. A png can't be replaced by a jpg that way, I would have to manually do them all again.


 * On the scaling, I seem to gave misspoke. The current pngs are a 33% scaled down version of the original 1:1 images, which are scaled as they are in-game, you look at the map and it looks like in-game quality. The 20% version is not "80% smaller of that.", it's "the image scaled to 20% of the original size instead of 33%." Related, you definitely don't want the full resolutions, they're more than twice as big than they are now, even as jpgs. DrakeyC (talk) 00:52, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Concerning the PNG maps you've uploaded so far, how about this:

For any PNGs that we have old JPEGs for (i.e. the replacements), you convert the PNGs to JPEG and do the File overwrite and other File stuff.

For the rest of the PNGs that would need new Files created for the conversions, I will handle.

In terms of scaling I was using the images-as-uploaded as the basis for comparison. What degree of scaling would you prefer, just so when I go and do the conversions we're all on the same page? - Meco (talk, contribs) 01:16, July 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, if you know how to do it, I'll let you handle the pngs.


 * The current 33% images, sizing them to 60% of their current size gets them pretty close to a 20% scale of the full size. It isn't exact, but I'm not gonna sit and hash out the decimals for the sake of 10 pixels of width. 60 is a nice round number. Or if you wanna keep them at 33% and just convert them to jpg, that's up to you. I won't argue it, it's a minor point to me. :)


 * Lastly, what about the two categories? DrakeyC (talk) 01:25, July 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * My bad, last one - File:KhorShakal SC1 Rend1.jpg should be renamed to "File:FirstStrikeEp3 SC1 Map1.jpg". DrakeyC (talk) 01:29, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Let's go with taking the images-as-uploaded and scaling them to 60% of their current size (i.e. 20% of the full-fidelity-the-way-SC-was-meant-to-be-played size :p.)

For the categories, keep Category:StarCraft_campaign_map_images. We'll ditch the other one ASAP. - Meco (talk, contribs) 01:33, July 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I am a complete and total derp - the map file you renamed is from Homeland, not First Strike. Oops. :/ DrakeyC (talk) 01:57, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for doing the images for me. DrakeyC (talk) 05:49, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm so derpy - can you lose the Transfusion from File:CliffJumper Transfusion SC2 Icon1.jpg, please? DrakeyC (talk) 08:49, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Gameplay
Check that, wasn't sure about this wiki's policies on that. Some Wikis actually go so far as to demand you use the player character name, ie, "Kerrigan should use crushing grip to destroy these structures quickly." DrakeyC (talk) 12:37, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Categorizing Images
For the ability icon images, if the same button on the UI is used for different abilities by different races (for instance, the Hybrid's Graviton Prison and the Phoenix's Graviton Beam), so we add that image to the specific race category for both of them?

Also, am I just like totally a hurricane to you guys at this point, wake up, see a bunch of chaos and activity that happened while you were gone, and try to clean up after me before I come back? :p DrakeyC (talk) 12:01, July 23, 2015 (UTC)